mosthighoracle (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Shogun2k7 After I wrote that reply, I looked up the Matrix in wikepeadia and read the plot, it is worth checking out. I also have the original script, there are a couple of things that were different from the movie.

Shogun2k7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@mosthighoracle Great reply! I really don't know what to say to all this, but it seems like you got a pretty good idea of the film and interpreted it on many different levels. I believe in a lot of what you say, but I still leave a little room for doubt tbh 'cause I find it's easy to get over excited about such things and get caught up in the hype. I reckon you got a really good picture of the whole idea behind The Matrix. Awesome! I haven't come across that book yet, maybe one day I'll read it.

mosthighoracle (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Shogun2k7 continued: psycedellics can help one see the matrix better, but they already have to be on the path. I once read a book called Our haunted planet, It change my perspective on many things, regarding our potentials, history,spiritual side of things, ufos and ET, It was probably the best book I ever read, it was written in 1971, I am going to get another copy, I recommen it to everyone obviously. I didn't intend to make such a long reply it just turned out that way, I know there is more

mosthighoracle (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Shogun2k7 continued: then there is history, the history that we are taught is very limited, may not be true, the same applies with religion. Everything in the matrix means something, but you don't know what you miss, there is the analogy of Plato's cave which I want to read personally and other philosophical analogies that are in it. It is obviously quite complex, there are levels to it. One person sees somthing that the other didn't depending on where they are at. I also think that 2B contin

mosthighoracle (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Shogun2k7 continued: we are writing, producing, directing and staring in our own movie, but really the movie has already been made, If time travel is real, than how could we travel into the future if it has not happened. Then there is the political/social part where the top or the pyramid wants to control/manipulate society and basically use them for slave labour, control/censor the media, TV, keep people in the dark, regarding free energy for example, Ufos and extra terestrials :2B continued

mosthighoracle (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Shogun2k7 continued: all part of our potential and more. If we grew up in an environment where all of those things were normal we would all be able to do those things. Seeing auras too. I saw the buddist concept of maya straight away, like this reality is just like a dream. When they asked buddah what he was he said that he was awake. Then there is the fate/destiny concept that I believe, but how does that co-exist with free will, I wonder if It is all like a movie, we all think that we are 2Bc

mosthighoracle (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Shogun2k7 continued: callers saying that their young children had watched him do it and then actually bent spoons with their minds, nobody had ever told them that they could or couldn't bend a spoon with their minds, and after seeing someone else do it, they thought they could too. Then there is stuff like ESP, telapathy, psychic abilities, telekinesis, astral travelling/remote wiewing, healing, visualising manifesting like the secret for eg even magic, mediumship etc I think thay are 2Bcont

mosthighoracle (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Shogun2k7 It can be difficult to verbalise, but I will give it a go. To start with I believe that we can be a lot more than we are lead to believe, I believe that we can run faster, jump higher, be stronger, I believe that we can bend spoons with our minds etc. But I/we have been programed to believe that we can't. A guy named Uri Gella who was later to be proven a fraud once went on TV and performed his spoon bending trick, well the TV station's swithcboard was immediatly jammed with: 2B cont

Shogun2k7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@mosthighoracle >>>continued...It's kind of like what Carlin said - "It's called the American dream, 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it."What's your take on the film?

Shogun2k7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@mosthighoracle I think motile2 has stockholm syndrome and has fallen in love with his oppressor/captor.This debate was a while ago so my views on the film have changed/developed slightly. I still believe the spiritual aspects are relevant, but my perspective has shifted to a more 'realistic' or political standpoint.I view the corporate/mainstream world as a big funfair and people have become caught up in it and neglected a large part of who they are.